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Post by conglacio on Dec 19, 2005 9:09:50 GMT 7
As talked about in another thread, I would like to help as a foreign historian
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Post by airim9x on Dec 20, 2005 3:23:22 GMT 7
That would be wonderful, it is a shame that Karnali, in its rich and active history for the past years has no documentation of all that has happened. Having your third party perspective will be tremendously helpful.
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Post by extreme007 on Dec 20, 2005 5:21:00 GMT 7
coool.... conglacio... (er.. we need a better name for ya).. i'll dig up whatever i can on the epic story line we were planning on having..
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Post by conglacio on Dec 20, 2005 18:49:54 GMT 7
what's wrong with Conglacio? better then some of the names I see here!  |
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Post by airim9x on Dec 21, 2005 5:59:33 GMT 7
so what is this history going to based off of? Fiction or facts behind our history? I was under the impression this would be the actual history of Karnali in the micronational world so that one day we will be remembered. An epic would be a nice cultural thing but I believe it is imperative we get a factual history of Karnali before it is too late.
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Post by conglacio on Dec 21, 2005 7:22:44 GMT 7
well, I was thinking the fitional history...mainly because it is in the fictional history of my nation that karnali is linked with it, and mainly because I do not know your real history.....
all I know of it is clouded by past prejudices.....
A Long Time Ago: Person of unspecifiable gender buchas up Puritania, under a Karnalian flag
ALTA -a few days: bunch of airplane fans become Karnali
ALTA -a while: Karnali turns into a proper nation.....with fighter jets in the churches, and nifty colour scheme, and cool logo with sunglasses
ALTA -a lot more whiles: Karnali gets nifty new board
ALTA -a long time: Karnali annexed by babkha, I mean Karnali joined the Great Satan
As you can see, if you want facts, then I am not a good historian.
However, if you want tales, legends and non existant history, then that's different
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Post by extreme007 on Dec 21, 2005 10:59:35 GMT 7
that's what we planning on getting... fictional history..
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Post by extreme007 on Dec 22, 2005 7:08:23 GMT 7
Okay Conglacio, here's the basic script we had planned on..: The Land/Setting: Inner Karnali  Inner Karnali is the original land given to us. It is the province with the capital Kaligandhaki. So, in the above map, basically everything except the islands, Kaniska, Chitral, Magadha, Kosala and Vamsas, and whatever more land we got after that (the above map is an old one). Background:Our epics are going to be divided into several different stories. Books if you want to call it that way. One such is what we shall talk on right now. Story:In the age of different nations and constant fights, leaders(any gender) rose from their respective clans and started to feel the need for a united nation. a nation that would conquer the entire world. conquer is the key word. they all wanted to be the MahaRaja.. and wanted their enemies DEAD. The leaders of the different clans unite the people within their own nation and then decide to launch war against all the other nations out there in the world. however, each of those nation has just an equally strong leader, bent on the same dream of conquering all lands. Also, each nation has its own advantage, and its own disadvantage. However, one comman man (name sake: Jalamdhara) knew that the only way to truely conquer this world would be to know each of the capabilities of every nation, and then get the best out of them. So, he visits one nation after another. How he interacts with every nation can be a small story/chapter within this first epic. During his travel through all the nations, he gathers his followers who are the best in their field. For eg, from the Spartan nation, he would gather some fierce soldiers and generals who are like-minded like him... from University, he would gather some scientists, and so on... In the end, he comes back to his nation-city of Kaligandhaki (not many knew about this place's existance until Jalamdhara made it famous), where he started from. Here, he already had his local population being trained by a strong force. Thus, with the strong powerfull local population on his side, he lets loose his acquired followers to train the locals even more.. Soon, after few months, Kaligandhaki rose to soo much power, that nobody had any clue of its complete power.. all were mysterious and kept secret by Jalamdhara's newly made organizatin: KIA. With the time at his hands, Jalamdhara set out to conquer all off the world. And wherever he went, he made the policy of that city the official policy of that city only, thus, making peace with the local population and gaining/increasing his approval raitings in the conquered places. This is how the world was first united.... but this was not the end. Notes:- The world, in the above storyline means Inner Karnali.
- There are a few background stories that have to be put in there, but they are small and not really that important for this to work out.
Ok.. that's the work for now... I am obviously going to help you out with all the works and all, so feel free to post here whenever you have a question or suggestion, or have finished work on some part or another. |
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Post by conglacio on Dec 22, 2005 18:56:26 GMT 7
ok,
1- what sort of date are we looking at for that happening?
2 - you mention that clan chiefs would take over their nations....how are nationsworked out? by language? blood? place?
3 - just too confirm, all this happens in the inner provice only? all stuff owned eoutside that if furture conquests?
4 - those cities in the inner province,...I presume they are mostly the main cities of some of the major nations?
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Post by extreme007 on Dec 22, 2005 23:15:46 GMT 7
1. well.. ancient history really... like for weaponry, we are looking at um.. swords and arrows..
2. I was thinking that at that time, all the cities, and nearby towns would be under one nation (or kingdom).. So, assume that inner Karnali is broken down into 7 nations.. they are all differentiated from their ideologies... Ramshah Kingdom is very good in economics (and thus, cheap weapons), Trishuli in science (and thus, advance weapons), Durbar in politics (all the people are happy because they got a voice in govt), Ganesh Himal in military (situated on top of a hill, and are very strong in military matters), Ilam in fun and recreational (no one would like to attack this place, cause its just a fun place... kinda like our OTS), Annapurna in foreign affairs and diplomacy (they know how to play other nations to their advantage at times) and finally Kaligandhaki (mixture of all the above but without a powerfull leader).
3. Yes. This all happens in inner province only. All the outside are for future conquests. This is because the Inner province is the first and original piece of land that was given to us by MCS. Everything else was added later on. The ideas of this epic were laid before any extra/new land was given to us. And hence, just inner karnali was used.
4. I believe 2 explains that. If not, basically I am thinking that we have the Inner Karnali divided into 7 kingdoms with the capital of each of these kingdoms being the 7 major cities found there.
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Post by conglacio on Dec 23, 2005 1:24:20 GMT 7
interesting..I will see whatI can do
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Post by extreme007 on Dec 23, 2005 1:29:30 GMT 7
well.. when you get something done, send me that, so that i can also put some inputs into it..
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Post by airim9x on Dec 23, 2005 2:18:27 GMT 7
interesting... jalamdhara is given credit for everything.
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Post by extreme007 on Dec 23, 2005 2:41:31 GMT 7
its always been that way since the start...
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Post by airim9x on Dec 24, 2005 3:46:10 GMT 7
never paid attention to this project until now, but I guess when only you have been behind the epic it would turn out this way. Too bad you didn't think of tying in hoef, leo, mig, me, korean, or jake... but i'm sure we'll come along eventually.
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